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Default My Natural Test Booster Stack! - 12-29-2011, 12:30 PM

Right now I am on 6 different natural test boosters! 6! I know that sounds stupid to some, but keep in mind as a natural bodybuilder I want to get every advantage I can to boost natural testosterone and lower estrogen. I wanted to get the best of best for the money.
A few things I had to keep in mind. Price, effectiveness, and value. Alot out there so I had tediously pick out the ones that met those qualifications!
I don't use prohormones so I wanted the best natural ones out there.
Here is what I am taking:


Tribulus is still a great test booster. I am taking two 1000mg tabs a day. Not only does NOW Foods sell this cheap as heck, but I trust NOW Foods. I am confident that they put in quality ingredients. Do research on them and you will see why I trust them so much. $21.95 for 180 is a sick deal.

Tribulus Terrestris (Standardized Extract) (Min. 45% Saponins) (Aerial Parts And Fruit) - 1.0g (1,000mg)



As D-Aspartic Acid is getting more and more popular, I wanted to make sure that I get the most bang for my buck. At $22.45 you are getting alot more then alot of other DAA supplements. The amount of DAA is higher than average. Check it out:

Vitamin D3(Cholecalciferol) - 4000iu 1000%
Vitamin B6(Pyridoxine) - 2mg 100%
Vitamin B9(Folate) - 400mcg 100%
Vitamin B12(Cyanocobalamin) - 6mcg 100%
Sodium - 13mg 5%
Lh/Free Testosterone/Atp Amplifying Vaodilatory Oxygen Sparing Matrix - 3600.1mg
D-Apartic Acid (3,120mg),Nitratine(Std. For 73% Nitrates),
Vitamin D3(Cholecalciferol)(4,000iu)



The product is not only very effective but very well needed. D-Aspartic Acid and Tribulus can increase estrogen levels. So since I dont want "bitch tits" and other high estrogen side effects. I take this to prevent test from converting to estrogen. There are alot of notable ingredients in here like Eurycoma Longifolia (LongJack), Chrysin, and DIM, but the major one is 6-bromoandrostenedione. It looks like a prohormones but it is not. It simply inhibits aromatase enzymes. The enzyme that converts test to estrogen. $22 is not bad for what you are getting here.

Proprietary Blend 600mg
-6-Bromoandrostenedione
-Chrysin
-Indole-3-Carbinol
-Eurycoma Longifolia
-Muira Puama
-Quercetin
-Coumesterol
-6,7 Dihydroxybergamottin
-Naringen




I got this for free. Nice little add on. I take this once every other day to make it last. But a nice list of ingredients. A little redundant of the item below but hey...throw it in the mix.

Zinc (As Monomethionine Aspartate) - 30mg 100%
Magnesium (As Aspartate) - 100mcg 100%
Methyldrene 25 SSX Blend - 575mg
Bulbine Natelensis 100:1 Ext - 100mg
Panex Ginseng Extract 8% (Root) - 100mg
Maca Extract 20:1 Ext - 79mg
Cnidium Monnieri Pwd - 50mg
Rauwolscine (Rauvolfia Canescens L. [Leaf And Root]) - 50mg
Shilajit Extract 20% Fulvic Acid - 50mg
Tribulus Terrestris 40% Saponins - 50mg
Horny Goat Weed Pwd - 30mg
Wild Oats Extract 20:1 Ext - 25mg
Xanthoparmelia Scabrosa Pwd - 10mg
Muira Puama Extract (Stem) 20:1 - 10mg
5-Methyoxytryptamine (5-Mt) - 10mg
Eleutherococcus Ext 10% (Root) - 10mg
Epimedium Extract 20% Icariin - 10mcg



This isn't just HGW. Look at all the stuff you are getting in here for $9 bucks:

Niacin - 80mg 500%
Horny Goat Weed (Epimidium grandiflorum) - 500mg
(whole herb) Icariin - 50mg
Maca 4:1 Extract (Lepidium meyenii)(root) - 250mg
Tribulus terrestris Extract (fruit) - 250mg
Furostanol Saponins - 100mg
Ginkgo Biloba - 120mg
Flavone Glycosides 24%, Terpene Lactones - 6%
Yohimbe Extract (bark) - 100mg
Yohimbine - 2mg



The main ingredient here is Stinging Nettle Root. This is a great product for loosening up bound testosterone bound by receptors. It's also a Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin (SHBG) Inhibitor.

Wide Spectrum Stinging Nettle Root Extract Including 3,4-divanillytetrahydrofuran - 400mg




Yes it alot of stuff to take, but in 2012 I will take full advantage of high testosterone levels. Now you know there are options for you, and even inexpensive options!


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Default 12-29-2011, 01:06 PM

what is your down time on most of these "natural test boosters" Tim.

what I would be concerned about is the long term ability to produce your own testosterone with taking so much test boosters.

There are natural foods of course that claim they boost test levels as well. Not nearly enough to really warrant a significant change in levels I would think but do raise them along with a good intake of lean proteins.

Also foods with cholesterol help raise test levels but of course we have to be careful when taking this in with a strict diet.

All in all would it not be safer to have your Dr. do a test and see where your natural levels are and if you are below those levels you can get a script for it. Like what I do. I use my HRT treatments with my Dr.'s orders.

Now don't get me wrong I have nothing against taking test boosters. I think they have their place but like the problem I have with Pro hormones. It is not the real thing and introducing fake .... so to speak hormones in the body is not that great in fact there are so many steps that have to be taken to insure you don't screw something up in your body. It is my belief if a person takes Pro Hormones then they should just take the real thing. But that is my opinion.

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Thanks Tim for the info!! Great to learn and keep in the back pocket!

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what is your down time on most of these "natural test boosters" Tim.

what I would be concerned about is the long term ability to produce your own testosterone with taking so much test boosters.

There are natural foods of course that claim they boost test levels as well. Not nearly enough to really warrant a significant change in levels I would think but do raise them along with a good intake of lean proteins.

Also foods with cholesterol help raise test levels but of course we have to be careful when taking this in with a strict diet.

All in all would it not be safer to have your Dr. do a test and see where your natural levels are and if you are below those levels you can get a script for it. Like what I do. I use my HRT treatments with my Dr.'s orders.

Now don't get me wrong I have nothing against taking test boosters. I think they have their place but like the problem I have with Pro hormones. It is not the real thing and introducing fake .... so to speak hormones in the body is not that great in fact there are so many steps that have to be taken to insure you don't screw something up in your body. It is my belief if a person takes Pro Hormones then they should just take the real thing. But that is my opinion.

Just a few thoughts to chew on.
I will stay on this for about 8 weeks then take a 4 week break.
I had my test levels checked when I was dieting hardcore and my test was low. 300. YIKES!!
That is in the normal range and when you are dieting I think your test levels are typically lower. For a bodybuilder it is low!
Anyway, it was a slap of reality in the face. I realized that when I got off the diet I was going to make certian I did something about it!


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I will stay on this for about 8 weeks then take a 4 week break.
I had my test levels checked when I was dieting hardcore and my test was low. 300. YIKES!!
That is in the normal range and when you are dieting I think your test levels are typically lower. For a bodybuilder it is low!
Anyway, it was a slap of reality in the face. I realized that when I got off the diet I was going to make certian I did something about it!
Interesting! Any chance of getting your Test levels checked again during the 8th week?


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Interesting! Any chance of getting your Test levels checked again during the 8th week?
Yeah, I have really been thinking about it.
I would like to go get it done now.
I have a high deductible on my health insurance but really want to get it done.


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Default 12-29-2011, 06:07 PM

while i was taking anabolic addiction mass addiction and t alpha i took a test for the purposes of baby making and my count was well over 10x the normal levels.


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Default 12-29-2011, 06:33 PM

1. Mac, technical fact here...when someone uses prohormones, more often than not they actually have pretty much NO test in their body, not fake test. This is why many guys run a test base of cyp or e with orals...and prohormones ARE steroids, some need to convert enzymatically while others don't, the only difference from injectable AAS is usually the methylated transport portion of the molecule...that and legality difference (for now)

2. Tim why the 6 bromo? I know it's an effective AI, but depending on where you're dosing it, you can actually wind up suppressing test production with it. I highly doubt OTC Tboosters will actually up your test enough to cause any sort of gyno...if you do I'd say it would be better to just low dose a SERM if gyno starts to occur, and at least taper off the AI or you risk "rebound" onset gyno.

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T-alpha is the bomb!

Hey Tim, how many servings in that Purus DAA?


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while i was taking anabolic addiction mass addiction and t alpha i took a test for the purposes of baby making and my count was well over 10x the normal levels.

Did you have before and after numbers? And what was the number of said 10x over?


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Default 12-30-2011, 12:23 PM

i dont have prior numbers but according to the doc 10-15ppm is around normal mine was 122ppm.


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Default 01-03-2012, 12:26 AM

Mmmmm tims stack sounds great!


Good to hear about the massive loads recarp, makes me want to get some talpha again..
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starting back on it today.


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Default 01-03-2012, 12:09 PM

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1. Mac, technical fact here...when someone uses prohormones, more often than not they actually have pretty much NO test in their body, not fake test. This is why many guys run a test base of cyp or e with orals...and prohormones ARE steroids, some need to convert enzymatically while others don't, the only difference from injectable AAS is usually the methylated transport portion of the molecule...that and legality difference (for now)

2. Tim why the 6 bromo? I know it's an effective AI, but depending on where you're dosing it, you can actually wind up suppressing test production with it. I highly doubt OTC Tboosters will actually up your test enough to cause any sort of gyno...if you do I'd say it would be better to just low dose a SERM if gyno starts to occur, and at least taper off the AI or you risk "rebound" onset gyno.

3. Lab Tests: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/index.php cheap, quick, highly rep'd. Sry if I'm not sposed to post these kind of links, but we have mods to fix these things...just tryina help

I am using the Estrogenix because I have heard that D-Aspartic Acid can cause gyno if misused. Just being on the safe side. Plus I truly want to lower estrogen as much as possible. (Too low is bad, Estrogenix isn't going to bring it to that level).

Keep in mind I am NOT using any prohormones here, but using an anti-estrogen is a must even for OTC test boosters!



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Hey Tim, how many servings in that Purus DAA?
About 30. Good profile on that stuff. I will be honest they are hard to swallow. Very rough pill. But it is all good!


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Thoughts on TST 750? Seems straight forward, simple, the way things should be lol.


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Default 01-04-2012, 10:04 PM

Ahhhh thanks for that info.

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1. Mac, technical fact here...when someone uses prohormones, more often than not they actually have pretty much NO test in their body, not fake test. This is why many guys run a test base of cyp or e with orals...and prohormones ARE steroids, some need to convert enzymatically while others don't, the only difference from injectable AAS is usually the methylated transport portion of the molecule...that and legality difference (for now)

2. Tim why the 6 bromo? I know it's an effective AI, but depending on where you're dosing it, you can actually wind up suppressing test production with it. I highly doubt OTC Tboosters will actually up your test enough to cause any sort of gyno...if you do I'd say it would be better to just low dose a SERM if gyno starts to occur, and at least taper off the AI or you risk "rebound" onset gyno.

3. Lab Tests: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/index.php cheap, quick, highly rep'd. Sry if I'm not sposed to post these kind of links, but we have mods to fix these things...just tryina help


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Thoughts on TST 750? Seems straight forward, simple, the way things should be lol.
It is a good product because you get the 6-Bromo AND D-Aspartic Acid.
D-Aspartic Acid - 2980 mg
6-bromo androst 1,4-diene 3,17 dione - 20 mg

3,000ish mgs a day of D-Aspartic Acid seems to be the norm.


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I've used 6-bromo in the past, kept me happy. Can't recall the dosing though (whatever was in the original iforce reversitol).


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It is a good product because you get the 6-Bromo AND D-Aspartic Acid.
D-Aspartic Acid - 2980 mg
6-bromo androst 1,4-diene 3,17 dione - 20 mg

3,000ish mgs a day of D-Aspartic Acid seems to be the norm.
Is 6-bromo legal in the natural comps you compete in? I've read that the NCAA has banned it and that it has potential to act as a steroid....but haven't read enough on it to sound educated.


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Is 6-bromo legal in the natural comps you compete in? I've read that the NCAA has banned it and that it has potential to act as a steroid....but haven't read enough on it to sound educated.
High doses bromo will become pretty anabolic and as I said before, can actually be strong enough to shut down your natty test production.


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