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Default Creatine 101 - 09-27-2011, 09:59 PM

Hey guys, Jeremy here with another article and another supplement like always! Today we'll be going over...drum roll please.. Creatine! The most studied supplement in sports medicine history! Creatine can be obtained naturally through red meat, fish, and poultry. However, this isn't enough to fully saturate your system, so yeah, you guessed it!....There's a supplement for that! You know the drill!

Creatine 101

Lets split this article into three parts as follows:

1. What is Creatine?
2. Forms of Creatine and How They Work
3. FAQ


1. What is Creatine?

Creatine is a naturally occurring compound known in the scientific world as “methyl guanidine-acetic acid “. Creatine is made up of amino acids including: Methionine, Arginine, and Glycine. This compound is what we deem responsible for the creation of ATP (Adenosine Triphosphate) and the conversion of ADP (Adenosine Diphosphate) into ATP (Adenosine Triphosphate). Adenosine Triphosphate is an energy source for muscle fibers and allows muscular contraction to occur. Creatine may have a slight increase in cellular protein synthesis, brain activity, and even a lactic acid buffer in some studies.

2. Creatine Forms and How They Work

Okay, so you've done your research but your curious about what creatine is right for you. Check out this list I typed up to aid your decision!

Creatine Monohydrate



The most popular and most studied form of creatine out there, known as “N-Amidinosarcosine”. Creatine monohydrate is often associated with the characteristic of “bloating” or intra-muscular (inside a muscle) water retention. However, because this water retention in intra-muscular, creatine monohydrate will not effect stage presence and is in fact used 3-5 days pre-contest by many bodybuilders to absorb that last bit of water and aid their dryness on stage.

Dosage: 5g per day every day
Cycling: No need to cycle off, however, a two week break every 6-8 months may be beneficial.
My Recommendation: CreaPure 100% pure micronized creatine monohydrate.



Creatine Ethyl Ester




Arguably the second most popular form of creatine out there, Creatine ethyl ester is also known as “CEE” in the body building world. The reasoning behind bonding a creatine molecule with an ester is to mainly enhance absorption, and uptake into the muscle cells. Creatine was also bonded like this to skip the ever so bro-scientific “loading phase” that was thought to be mandatory with creatine monohydrate.

Dosage: 5g per day every day
Cycling: No need to cycle off, however, a two week break every 6-8 months may be beneficial.
My Recommendation: CEE is mainly hype, lacks long term research, and better results may be experienced with other creatine forms.


Creatine Magnesium Chelate



One of the most efficient, smoothest mixing, easily dissolved, and best working designer creatines on the market. Creatine magnesium chelate, also known as “MagnaPower”, was created to enhance absorption, minimize water retention, and increase saturation within skeletal muscle. From experience I agree that it does just that!

Dosage: 5g per day every day
Cycling: No need to cycle off, however, a two week break every 6-8 months may be beneficial.
My Recommendation: Controlled Labs Green MAGnitude, or bulk MagnaPower powder.

Creatinol-O-Phosphate



This is a form of creatine featured in VPX products which is often referred to as COP. The funny thing is, its NOT creatine! It actually mimics the effects of beta-alanine instead of attempting to increase creatine saturation within skeletal muscle. (Please refer to my other sticky titled “Pre-workouts 101” to learn all about beta-alanine)

Dosage: 1-3g per day every day
Cycling: No need to cycle off, however, a two week break every 6-8 months may be beneficial.
My Recommendation: Vpx NO Shotgun or bulk COP



Creatine HCL

Created by accident while attempting to create another CEE compound in 2003, creatine hydrochloride is considered the “concentrated” creatine form due to its ability to micro dose. Popularized by CON-CRET, Creatine HCL was created to rapidly saturate a muscle with creatine without bloat, or the need to cycle off. Creatine HCL It provides nicely sustained strength gains over time and was put into Muscle Pharm's Assault for its pre-workout debut. It is also believed that creatine HCL has a zero conversion rate into creatinine. (Creatine's waste product)

Dosage: 1/4th TSP per 100lbs BW per day every day
Cycling: No need to cycle off, however, a two week break every 6-8 months may be beneficial.
My Recommendation: Promera Health's CON-CRET



Di-Creatine Malate



Di-creatine malate, also known as “2CM”, is two creatine molecules bonded to a malic acid molecule. The addition of malic acid will increase energy production and in turn, increase creatines conversion into ATP. (Adenosine Triphosphate) The addition of malic acid may also increase creatine absorption to a degree.

Dosage: 5g per day every day
Cycling: No need to cycle off, however, a two week break every 6-8 months may be beneficial
My Recommendation: Controlled Labs Green MAGnitude or bulk 2CM powder



Kre-Alkalyn




Kre-Alkalyn is a “buffered” form of creatine designed to inhibit creatinine conversion and allow better absorption. Its designed to buffer the acid in the stomach allowing creatine to proceed without degredation, and minimal water retention/bloat.

Dosage: 1.5-3g per day every day
Cycling: No need to cycle off, however, a two week break every 6-8 months may be beneficial.
My Recommendation: Better results may be experienced with other creatine forms.

FAQ


Will creatine cause any form of organ damage?

NO.

Is creatine safe?

YES. Creatine is the most studied, and one of the safest supplements on the market.


Am I old enough to use creatine?

Creatine is usable by those 15-16 years of age and older.


Is creatine a steroid?

NO.

I hope you all have learned something. Thanks for reading and don't hesitate to post any questions you have below. Remember to check out the IPYU store for some awesome prices on the products mentioned above!Thanks again for reading guys!


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good stuff brother! I stickied it and will read it more when I am sober!
Haha alright thanks man! I appreciate it.

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I think there is something more than beer goggles going on in that situation!!! Lol


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Jeremy,
This is great. Perfect thing to reference to when we are all trying to buy creatine and figure out what the best one is to buy.
What do you take????? I like the Kre-Alkalyn and thought it worked very well.

Rick- thanks for making this a sticky. Again good reference material.


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Jeremy,
This is great. Perfect thing to reference to when we are all trying to buy creatine and figure out what the best one is to buy.
What do you take????? I like the Kre-Alkalyn and thought it worked very well.

Rick- thanks for making this a sticky. Again good reference material.
Kre-Alk, in my opinion, has its functionality based on responders. Very few people get gains with kre-alk that are better than ConCret, or Green MAGnitude. Controlled labs green magnitude, creapure, and con cret are my choices for the best on the market. Almost everyone sees the best creatine based gains of their life on Green mag. It contains two extremely fast absorbing, high quality designer creatines and definitely takes the cake when you taste it. It tastes great, mixes VERY well, and absorbs quickly and efficiently. You cant ask for anything else especially when it comes in an 80 serving tub. IMO, best on the market so far. BUT..If you do respond to kre-alk, go for it. What it comes down to is, whatever works, works. Everyones body is different and is going to react to things differently than others. My friends have gotten really sick from kre-alk and never bought it again. That kinda left an impression that wasn't all that great. lol
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Kre-Alk, in my opinion, has its functionality based on responders. Very few people get gains with kre-alk that are better than ConCret, or Green MAGnitude. Controlled labs green magnitude, creapure, and con cret are my choices for the best on the market. Almost everyone sees the best creatine based gains of their life on Green mag. It contains two extremely fast absorbing, high quality designer creatines and definitely takes the cake when you taste it. It tastes great, mixes VERY well, and absorbs quickly and efficiently. You cant ask for anything else especially when it comes in an 80 serving tub. IMO, best on the market so far. BUT..If you do respond to kre-alk, go for it. What it comes down to is, whatever works, works. Everyones body is different and is going to react to things differently than others. My friends have gotten really sick from kre-alk and never bought it again. That kinda left an impression that wasn't all that great. lol
GreenMag from Controlled Labs is good stuff. Only tried samples so far but hear it is good.


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GreenMag from Controlled Labs is good stuff. Only tried samples so far but hear it is good.
It definitely is man. They didn't take a cheap route either, so no skimping on quality is a great thing. Get micronized creatine mono, and green mag. mix them side by side. chew the liquid and you'll feel almost nothing with the green mag and sand with the mono. But, in the end of the day, they both work.
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It definitely is man. They didn't take a cheap route either, so no skimping on quality is a great thing. Get micronized creatine mono, and green mag. mix them side by side. chew the liquid and you'll feel almost nothing with the green mag and sand with the mono. But, in the end of the day, they both work.
Ive heard the mixability in green mag is amazing. I think once im out of concret I will give it a shot. Local GNC offered buy one thing of concret get two more for free. Couldnt turn that down! Lol. Concret is definitely some good stuff. Ive gone through a tub and a half, and ive noticed some pretty decent gains.


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GreenMag from Controlled Labs is good stuff. Only tried samples so far but hear it is good.
The hulk juice is my fav creatine as well. I mix in 5g mono and it's still the best tasting creatine ive had. And they offer it at a real low price per serving.
This thread just furthers my love for green mag
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I'm gonna be starting Magna power tomarrow and I was wondering do I take 5 grams on off days too? And if I use more than 5g will it be a waste?


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Jeremy,
This is great. Perfect thing to reference to when we are all trying to buy creatine and figure out what the best one is to buy.
What do you take????? I like the Kre-Alkalyn and thought it worked very well.

Rick- thanks for making this a sticky. Again good reference material.
I agree on the K-A. I took creatine for over 10 years even before JG (17 years old) was born or I started bodybuilding before the wheelchairchair. lol ( People with M.S. are naturally low in creatine levels without supplementing it.)

I went to Kre-Alkalyn a few years back. Now I'll never go back.

But again as he states these are only his opinion not fact, as liking Kre-Alkalyn is ours.

I'm a very layed back nice guy not trying to start anything just bringing out a pionts that these "BESTS" are only his opinion. I don't want new members to read this and think it is 100% fact.


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I agree on the K-A. I took creatine for over 10 years even before JG (17 years old) was born or I started bodybuilding before the wheelchairchair. lol ( People with M.S. are naturally low in creatine levels without supplementing it.)

I went to Kre-Alkalyn a few years back. Now I'll never go back.

But again as he states these are only his opinion not fact, as liking Kre-Alkalyn is ours.

I'm a very layed back nice guy not trying to start anything just bringing out a pionts that these "BESTS" are only his opinion. I don't want new members to read this and not buy our products.
Fixed. Fair enough, you've stated how long you've used YOUR OPINION of the "BEST" creatine and like you felt the need to, I will repeat myself and even underline and bold it for you like you did to me. Thats your OPINION, that its the "BEST". it isn't 100% FACT,... Now you can explain to Tim that when he thinks he's taking kre-alk, hes been on mono for years. Why? Well, Tim is a fan of sci fit...and what do we know about sci fit? Not only are they a shit company, but they've been passing off kre-alk as mono for YEARS!!! A third party lab test sponsored and funded by All American® Pharmaceutical (Aaefx) to bust scifit and revealing that their kre-alkalyn was capped mono and All American® Pharmaceutical wants to sue for violating the patent they have. So most people who take kre-alk, are actually taking mono since scifit is in the top 3 best selling kre-alkalyns in history. So yeah guys, you might wanna drop sci-fit. AAEFX or "All American® Pharmaceutical" needs to also prove that creatine requires a lower ph level for better absorption and their claim of a "28% strength increase" from kre-alk. Until then, toss it in the trash. Kre alk is just mono at a premium. Also, sci-fit's protein is underdosed...Just thought id throw that in there


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All American Pharmaceutical has just become aware that ATF Fitness Products, Inc. is selling a product labeled "Sci-Fit Kre-Alkalyn®” that is counterfeit. These products have been tested and found to contain none to traces of Kre-Alkalyn®, but instead contain creatine monohydrate. The Sci-Fit Kre-Alkalyn® product does not provide the beneficial results of using the patented Kre-Alkalyn® product. Products identified in this fraud thus far are Sci-Fit Kre-Alklayn® 1500 capsules and Sci-Fit Kre-Alkalyn® 1500 Powder.

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I'm gonna be starting Magna power tomarrow and I was wondering do I take 5 grams on off days too? And if I use more than 5g will it be a waste?
Nah stick to 5 grams per day everyday. More then 5 grams per day isn't necessary and wont have an impact on your gains. Nice choice by the way, excellent creatine.


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