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Default 02-18-2007, 12:07 PM

shit you got it on lock down hu!! how many mg's a day total of glutamine.
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Default 02-18-2007, 01:24 PM

Jordan, that's looks like a pain in the arse! I know, it's the price you have to pay...but they already make fun of me at the office about being obsessed with this stuff....oh well.

edit: Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I have some glutamine on order so I'm definitely going to add that. I'll get some flaxseed oil and tuna and work that in too. I'll get there. I appreciate the help!


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Default 02-18-2007, 01:46 PM

Actually this diet is so much easier than my old diet. Mainly because I know what I am eating and when. Plus, tuna, there is no cooking. Oatmeal you just scoop and add water and microwave it. Chicken breast I broil 12 at a time and just put them in tuberware seperately with rice/veggies that I make. Sunday is the busy day when I make all my meals that don't come in a can or need to be cooked. I'm a simple guy.

SDY- thats 10g of glutamine a day.
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FUCK!!!! This has got to be one of the all time GREATEST threads at IPYU has had!!!! Jordan - you rock!!!! The maltose/dextrose pre-workout will help you Rick. (Yeah - this can also help build glycogen concentrations in the liver prior to taking a test.... so it is hypothisized). Anyway, the creatine was right on - normal concentrations of ATP in the call are 3-5 mM and can be increased using CEE by up to 15%.
And Jordan - your "no pussies approach" is great. Makes me look internally to some of the things that I know that I personally do that inhibit my own strength and size. Thanks Bro!

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Is is 3-5 mM or 300mOsm? I always get confused thinking about introducing exogenous ATP into the ECF. The way I think about it, is that the molecule would have to be above 300mOsm or .150 M per liter to be able to have an electrochemical gradient to cross the bilayer. Could be wrong on the physiological pathway in question.
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Rbrash- the flaxseed is a pain to carry around that bottle and it tastes like butt if you ask me, pure molasses almost, but oh well...need the cals and omega 3's. For tuna I like the packets that are ready to go when you open them so I don't need to carry around a can opener etc. You should see my backpack when I leave the house @ 9am every morning. I have 3-4 meals with me, silverware, 2 shakers, 3 ziplocs of powder (protein, superpump 250, creatine), socks, compression shorts and all my training stuff is in my gym locker. Oh yeah I have a 5 subject notebook for classes too...lol.
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Rbrash- the flaxseed is a pain to carry around that bottle and it tastes like butt if you ask me, pure molasses almost, but oh well...need the cals and omega 3's. For tuna I like the packets that are ready to go when you open them so I don't need to carry around a can opener etc. You should see my backpack when I leave the house @ 9am every morning. I have 3-4 meals with me, silverware, 2 shakers, 3 ziplocs of powder (protein, superpump 250, creatine), socks, compression shorts and all my training stuff is in my gym locker. Oh yeah I have a 5 subject notebook for classes too...lol.
Geek! Nah, j/k...you've got it going on mentally and physically it sounds like. Stay with it!

hmm...butt? Can't wait


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Surprisingly, the butt taste is filling...err ummm....lemme rephrase. Oh yeah if I get hunger pangs I got tons of rice cakes sitting around to nibble on.
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Surprisingly, the butt taste is filling...err ummm....lemme rephrase. Oh yeah if I get hunger pangs I got tons of rice cakes sitting around to nibble on.
LOL! Yeah I keep rice cakes at home and the office too.


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Jordan - intracellular it's 3-5mM [ATP]. THe trick (especially on meet days) is to hit the CEE IMMEDIATELY after a lift when ATP concentrations are lowest. That will infuse the cell with non-phosphorylated creatine and you know what happens after that. THEN about 10-15 minutes prior to your next attempt, hit another shot of CEE - this increases extracellular concentrations of CEE, and the cell will take it in. It also helps if you are running L-Arg with it to promote delivery to muscle tissues. Not sure of the longevity of L-Arg in the blood stream though - something we will have to look into.

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This is not an article I found on the internet, or read in some book. This is stuff I have researched and learned by trial and error...take what you will....

So you wanna get big huh?
The bottom line is you have to eat more. A lot more. People who try to clean bulk end up gaining 10lbs or less and hit a plateau and then give up on the goal. There is this myth out there that they stay lean year round. Horseshit. They look relatively lean because their muscle bellies are so developed they appear muscular while grossly over weight and fat. Take Lee priest as an example...off season hits and he looks like fat bastard...literally. He blows up to 300+ and close to 17% BF, no lie. Ronnie Coleman gained 20lbs in 3 days post mr olympia. There was a video of him training and he was literally eating mcdonalds during a workout, fries and all. The only respect to diet is that they take in the required protein to get the size they want. It is impossible to take in 5000kcal from clean foods, impossible! So next time you wanna get big, make a plan to put on X amount of lbs, do it as fast as possible with intense training and the increased diet, then cut to whatever you want. Your muscle gain will be extraordinary.

So you wanna get cut huh?
Okay, now this is real easy. Here is a basic list of things sure to rip you up:
1. AM cardio on an empty stomach- this recruits pure fat for energy if you keep it to your target heart rate (THR). This is calculated by 220- age times 0.7. Keep your HR at this and watch the fat melt. Doing cardio on a full stomach just burns what you have eaten, not the fat stores you wanna get rid of.
2. Take glutamine in the AM- not post workout. The problem with taking glutamine post workout is that the proteins in glutamine and the protein shake you're taking in compete for absorbtion. This is not ideal.
3. Eat less, more often. This sounds simple, but people don't understand. Eat less food, thats cleaner and more frequent intervals, about every 2-2.5 hrs. Make all main components lean protein, either from a shake or from meats. Then in the am u can have good carbs from brown rice, veggies etc and in the pm (after 5) only trace carbs from veggies are allowed. Use flaxseed and protein shakes as supplementation for meals when hunger strikes. STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM MILK. It makes you soft as hell and has obscene amounts of useless calories. You think milk is a good idea? Show me your spider-webbed chest and rippling midsection.
4. Don't train light- by training lighter your muscles are remodeling smaller due to the decreased load you're putting on them. Go as heavy as you can go, to keep the muscle bellies full and what not. Most BB'ers hit PR's 2 weeks out from a show.

So you're sets of 10-12 aren't doing anything for you eh?
Duh! You aren't training intense enough. You should barely get the 2nd to last rep and be praying to god you don't die on the last rep. Aim between 6-8 reps on core movements (bench, dead, squat, rows) and makes these your staples. Yes virginia, tricep press downs aren't gonna make your tries balloon like close-grip bench and dips...gee I wonder why?

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