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Default How the heck do you get calves to grow? - 08-16-2011, 02:59 PM

This guy from Dymatize came in the other day and was complaining about how sore his calves were. Told me he can only train them every-so-often or they will get too big. WTH!!
I said "Let me see them!"
His calves were some of the biggest calves I have seen!
I was reading where Nasser El Sonbaty said that if after a few years of training them they don't grow huge you will never have huge calves. Sometimes I believe that. Sure someone has a some tricks or some crazy routine that gets these puppies growing.


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Default 08-16-2011, 03:23 PM

reps,reps and more reps.


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High reps with heavy weight with lots of frequency is the only thing that has worked for me.


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Default 08-16-2011, 04:13 PM

I am one of those that just has big calves, but I still work them. I had a calf tear last year, and my Dr. said that I had "Popeye" calves, so it was not going to be a big deal.....not sure I took that as a compliment....but I still work them. I figure they are supposed to be big.
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popeyes better then oilive oil.lol


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popeyes better then oilive oil.lol
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Default 08-16-2011, 11:54 PM

I've noticed more from my calves since I started my new job last Feb. Could be the lifting in that period as well, but I think the combination of the lifting, and using them all day at work, moving things around, pushing/pulling the 750lbs cryo cylinders, etc etc works. Gotta beat them to hell I guess haha.
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Default 08-17-2011, 10:25 AM

I've heard that you have to do exercises where your knees are bent because when they are straight you don't hit the entire calf. Could be bullshit but the guy who told me seems to know his stuff.


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Default 08-17-2011, 10:42 AM

Calves are our leg's forearms. But unfortunately our feet don't grip anything so we can't build them that way. I think both straight legged calf raise and bent/seated combined would be good. And I don't see why a serious beating more than twice a week. Just like any muscle....we tear them down but they grow with rest and diet.

I see a lot of people do short but rapid reps with calves. I love a huge stretch at the bottom and contract/squeeze at the top. This means to get that huge stretch, doing calf raises on the flat floor ain't going to get it imo.

I haven't worked mine much in the past, but starting to hit them pretty good again. I noticed about 2 yrs ago I have a serious problem with my left calf looking way different than my right. Not sure what I can do about it other than just keep working them both the same.


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I've heard that you have to do exercises where your knees are bent because when they are straight you don't hit the entire calf. Could be bullshit but the guy who told me seems to know his stuff.
Actually, that is true! That is the only way to hit the soleus: http://www.livestrong.com/article/41...soleus-muscle/

I just started doing seated calf raises again, since Rick brought in a raise for us....hello soleus!


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Default 08-17-2011, 12:15 PM

Supersets and drop sets on calves will blow them up. Mine our muscular and all the right places are built but I want them to be huge. Anything that has worked particularily well for anyone!?


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Default 08-25-2011, 02:09 AM

Plantar Flexion is “toe pointing”, i.e., increasing of the angle between the foot and the shin. Having both a medial and lateral head, the gastrocnemius (big calf muscle on top) is effected by foot placement to the outside or inside. Furthermore, in addition to plantar flexion, the gastrocnemius can also perform knee flexion, but not simultaneously. Due to the origin of the muscle, the gastronemius is shortened during knee flexion and therefore cannot plantar flex the ankle at the same time. For this reason, seated calf raises will not develop the gastrocnemius. Moreover, pointing the toes during a leg curl effectively turns the gastrocnemius off, making the remaining knee flexors do more work. The soleus is involved in all plantar flexion, regardless of the angle of the knee joint.

Short version: Leg straight = Gastroc and soleus. Knees bent = soleus only. Playing with foot placement during straight leg calf raises can emphasize one head over another. Also, the gastrocnemius is involved in knee flexion (ex, leg curls).


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Good explanation Loaf.


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Plantar Flexion is “toe pointing”, i.e., increasing of the angle between the foot and the shin. Having both a medial and lateral head, the gastrocnemius (big calf muscle on top) is effected by foot placement to the outside or inside. Furthermore, in addition to plantar flexion, the gastrocnemius can also perform knee flexion, but not simultaneously. Due to the origin of the muscle, the gastronemius is shortened during knee flexion and therefore cannot plantar flex the ankle at the same time. For this reason, seated calf raises will not develop the gastrocnemius. Moreover, pointing the toes during a leg curl effectively turns the gastrocnemius off, making the remaining knee flexors do more work. The soleus is involved in all plantar flexion, regardless of the angle of the knee joint.

Short version: Leg straight = Gastroc and soleus. Knees bent = soleus only. Playing with foot placement during straight leg calf raises can emphasize one head over another. Also, the gastrocnemius is involved in knee flexion (ex, leg curls).
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What is your favorite calf builder!?


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Plantar Flexion is “toe pointing”, i.e., increasing of the angle between the foot and the shin. Having both a medial and lateral head, the gastrocnemius (big calf muscle on top) is effected by foot placement to the outside or inside. Furthermore, in addition to plantar flexion, the gastrocnemius can also perform knee flexion, but not simultaneously. Due to the origin of the muscle, the gastronemius is shortened during knee flexion and therefore cannot plantar flex the ankle at the same time. For this reason, seated calf raises will not develop the gastrocnemius. Moreover, pointing the toes during a leg curl effectively turns the gastrocnemius off, making the remaining knee flexors do more work. The soleus is involved in all plantar flexion, regardless of the angle of the knee joint.

Short version: Leg straight = Gastroc and soleus. Knees bent = soleus only. Playing with foot placement during straight leg calf raises can emphasize one head over another. Also, the gastrocnemius is involved in knee flexion (ex, leg curls).
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Default 08-27-2011, 08:49 AM

Heavy one week, high reps the next with light weight


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higher reps seem to work a little better for me especially if I superset them. They blow up!


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Default 08-29-2011, 04:02 PM

Just hammer them I've played around with foot placement, bent legs, donkey calf raises, leg press machine, calf machine, seated calf raises, and standing. I've even locked my calves up to the point of only being able to walk on the front of my feet. I believe if your an active person (don't sit at a desk and are on your feet every day) you have to hit them even harder. I trained my calves like crazy when I was younger and for a tall guy they aren't bad at 19". You ever notice a person over weight person has huge calves and haven't trained them??? I get pissed every time I see it (my calfs got bigger when I weighed 340lbs also)....Hammer them does that sound to simple?


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