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Default Rest or Train - 07-28-2009, 08:08 PM

Today was a day I didn't get it done, well at first. My plan was to train Back and Biceps. I went to the gym this morning (a little late I was on some forum posting and reading about BB) I started my work out like this:
pullups 4 sets of 15
lat pull downs 4 sets of 10
dead lifts 4 sets of 15 @135
single arm rows 4 sets

Then I had to leave to get to work on time. I needed 2 more sets of biceps to finish the workout. Then at work my back got a little tight, I remembered I always finish back with hypers to strech out the hip flexors. When I got off work I went back to the gym, here is what I did:

Hypers 4 sets with a 25lb plate (Lower back and hams feel much better)
Straight bar curls 4 sets
Hammer curls 4 sets
Conctration curls 4 sets.

Was it wise to hit the gym twice in a day? Many people train twice a day, but it is usually cardio for one session and then weight training for the other session. Were my arms fried from this morning and still in recovery or did I benifit from finishing the workout?



What do you think ?


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Default 07-28-2009, 08:20 PM

Most of the people that I have talked to that hit bodyparts twice in one day do it the way you are talking about kickboy. Larger muscle groups in the am and smaller in the pm. Like you did or shoulders in the am and traps in the pm. I dont see a problem with it as long as diet is on point. Sounds like from your post you felt better afterwards


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Default 07-28-2009, 09:17 PM

Im goin to disagree man, I train ONE body part hard for 16 to 20 sets a day... I see no point in doing 2 a day at different times... im growing just fine with a 5 day split doing arms all by them selfves... Im not the leanest ive ever been but the strongest for sure


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Default 07-28-2009, 09:48 PM

his point of going twice was he had to return to work.

i never go (to lift) twice a day, but that is just me.
if you feel that your second workout's energy levels were good, then your good to go.
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his point of going twice was he had to return to work.

i never go (to lift) twice a day, but that is just me.
if you feel that your second workout's energy levels were good, then your good to go.
Agreed! I never once said that is the optimal way to train.


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Default 07-29-2009, 11:03 AM

Well, I will tell ya this from my point of view and this was when I was at my strongest. I was doing alternating bodyparts twice a day. Legs in the morning and upper body in the afternoon.


1st day
am
Legs
pm
Chest and triceps

2nd day
am
Back and Biceps
pm
Shoulders and Traps

Day 3 off

Day 4 repeat days 1 and 2


I was doing a basice Power Routine when I was competing and was the strongest I had been in at that time.

I redid this routine a couple of years ago and it worked again. I was able to really put it into my schedule at the time because I worked night shift and would get off in the morning and then workout. Then go to the gym in the afternoon and workout again.

Worked for me.

Diet has to be spot on. Oh I will say this as well. I was the leanest I had ever been at these times as well. Like Matt said you have to have diet on spot for the energy and make sure you have enough energy to put up with the phantom overtraining which people thing they get. when doing something like this.


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Default 07-29-2009, 12:53 PM

Well as for getting lean I feel 2 calorie burning sessions per day is better than one with the time spent working out is equal. This was just a hard day and i wanted to get my work in. I will go to a weight morning session and a evening cardio/conditioning session. I have been ask to teach a cardio class and I am considering it.

I still need to smooth out my daily schedule but things are going good now. All my lifts are creeping up little by little and my joints and body feel good.


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Default 07-29-2009, 01:58 PM

That's all we can ask for. Is it not ? our joints to not hurt. LOL.


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Default 07-29-2009, 09:05 PM

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That's all we can ask for. Is it not ? our joints to not hurt. LOL.
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Default 07-30-2009, 09:53 AM

Hell, I did start all this young about 14 years old and my joints still hurt. LOL.

I just made a change on my vitamins in the past week. I went back to animal paks and I've realized that they have been helping my joint health too.


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Default 07-30-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RoaringMad Mac View Post
Well, I will tell ya this from my point of view and this was when I was at my strongest. I was doing alternating bodyparts twice a day. Legs in the morning and upper body in the afternoon.


1st day
am
Legs
pm
Chest and triceps

2nd day
am
Back and Biceps
pm
Shoulders and Traps

Day 3 off

Day 4 repeat days 1 and 2


I was doing a basice Power Routine when I was competing and was the strongest I had been in at that time.

I redid this routine a couple of years ago and it worked again. I was able to really put it into my schedule at the time because I worked night shift and would get off in the morning and then workout. Then go to the gym in the afternoon and workout again.

Worked for me.

Diet has to be spot on. Oh I will say this as well. I was the leanest I had ever been at these times as well. Like Matt said you have to have diet on spot for the energy and make sure you have enough energy to put up with the phantom overtraining which people thing they get. when doing something like this.
Hey mac, I know I have not been posting a lot but I have sure been reading and this seriously caught my eye since I am now trying to get into powerlifting. I am currently using a westside style template. But I am very interested to here more about the program you used. I would love some more details about it and maybe a few stories from your powerlifting days.
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