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RickB 04-02-2013 02:51 PM

Are you a Bodybuilder or a Powerlifter?
 
I found this interesting! The whole article is here...but this was a cool section here I think:

In 1993, Tom Platz, owner of perhaps the biggest wheels in bodybuilding history, entered into a squatting competition with Fred Hatfield (aka "Dr. Squat"), the first guy to squat 1,000 pounds.
Although Tom's legs were much bigger than Fred's, Fred kicked his butt in a one-rep max, hoisting 855 pounds to Tom's 765 pounds. But when they took some plates off the bar and decreased the weight to 525 pounds for a test of lower-body endurance, Tom dusted Fred, performing 23 reps compared to Fred's 11.
http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2...d-hatfield.jpg
Fred Hatfield, and Tom Platz
Bottom line is, bodybuilders seem better at high reps with a smooth cadence, whereas powerlifters seem more adept at low reps performed explosively.
Mr. Olympia Jay Cutler wrote some very honest and forthright commentary on strength and muscular size in his Muscular Development column in 2010. He listed his all-time best lifts along with his current strength. He used to train with much heavier weights several years back, but he's more muscular now than he was back when he was much stronger. While he still goes heavy, these days he focuses more on quality than quantity.

RoaringMad Mac 04-02-2013 09:41 PM

Very interesting I remember reading about that and seeing a video of Tom Platz ripping those squats . This is why I'm a huge believe in higher rep training and progressively getting heavier


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RickB 04-02-2013 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RoaringMad Mac (Post 157871)
Very interesting I remember reading about that and seeing a video of Tom Platz ripping those squats . This is why I'm a huge believe in higher rep training and progressively getting heavier


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I actually thought you'd be more for the lower reps due to competing in powerlifting. Are you still planning on it?

RoaringMad Mac 04-03-2013 09:28 AM

nope. I have to many mechanical issues with my back to do powerlifting anymore. I've always been a fan of upper volume training. even when I was powerlifting.

I never got anything out of lower Reps. Only for 1 reps max.

Now I gauge what my max is by how many reps I can do like squats. doing 315 for 20 reps or 405 for 15. stuff like that.

Even though I went through that DC craze for a little bit. I never really adhered to it. Yeah of course you can get strong but at what cost to your joints and causing arthritis later on by the damage that can do.

With me doing my Milo Principle It is allowing higher reps and heavier weight as your adapt to it.

I read years ago some things on Tom Platz that he did adaptive type training Just completely bombarding the muscle with reps and going up in weight each week until strength came from high volume. It is like the ultimate in strength.

Yeah I like seeing guys bench press 600 lbs and squat 800 or 900 pounds but it is equally or even a little more impressive to see someone reps out 405 or 500 on bench press or squat 500 for 20 reps. To me it is like a warrior on a battle field swinging a sword. That one guy who can swing that heavy ax one time and he is slow but the warrior that that can swing the ax or sword a multitude of times is more likely to come out alive vs the one who can only swing it once or twice in a couple of seconds. LOL Does that make sense.

PAPAW 04-10-2013 03:06 PM

Ok here I go with something that probably has already been said. BUT
It's been my experience that high reps are good for me since I do have ole arthur in my joints.
They help me keep loose and able to bend those joints. When I go heavy I'm stiff and it takes a while to get loose. What I'm running into now is shoulder joint problems. Dr says it arthritus, I'm not quit sure. All I know is they hurt where the coller bone meets the shoulder. I love my weight lifting and have started making some progress, I don't want to have to quit this like I did running.

RoaringMad Mac 04-11-2013 09:22 AM

I agree Papaw, If I knew then what I know now I would have always gone with higher reps. It takes longer for some of us to warm up especially as we get older.


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