antihero
07-21-2006, 12:13 PM
Myths About The Pros And Bodybuilding..
MYTHS ABOUT THE PROS AND BODYBUILDING... By LATS
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This is not story time with LATS, but it is interesting nonetheless. My
buddy who lives in California and lived for quite a spell with Haney
called me the other day. We usually talk twice a month, he was a
national caliber competitor in the 80's and early 90's. He is 44 years
old and looks awesome to say the least. I found some of his comments
very interesting over the years and will tell yeah what he has told me.
Most of which is the exact opposite of what yeah read in the magazines.
1) THE PROS EAT 5-6 TIMES A DAY
He always
laughs about this, here is what he says, "Yeah, maybe before a show.
They tighten up their diet. But, off-season, please I have dined with
them any times. Most of these guys grow from just breathing Haney in
the off-season was only concerned about calories. He would eat about
three times a day and a shake but none of this every three hours crap
we just eat a lot Period. Whether it was done in two or three meals
was just fine with us.
2) BODYBUILDERS EAT CLEAN
Now I have
watched my buddy numerous times eat Here is his diet... Get out of bed
at around 8:00AM. Eat a large bowl of cereal, fruit loops, cheerios, it
really does not seem to matter. Wait an hour and hit the gym. Two hours
later Go back to the house and get some work done... No after workout
shake or nothing He says, "That is silly Your body is always
repairing itself. Plus, I am not hungry after my workout. Why eat?" at
1 or so. I eat a sandwich at the beach, maybe a hamburger and fires
with lemonade, always lemonade at 6:00PM go to a restaurant and eat a
lot of pasta and salad. "Carbs are where it is at, high protein is just
silly. I happen to agree that people put way too much emphasis on
protein, but... anyway... Go home and finish up some work, before bed
may be some popcorn or if he remembers. A Met-RX shake... He says what
he does is not that far off what he watched Mike Christian do and
Strydom, etc
3) THE PROS HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE GOODIES
He laughs at that... "I just used what I could find and put it to use
in my cycles... I just make the proper adjustments if it was something
I did not want I'd use it anyway... It all works... Just has to be
used different. He says many pros were in the same boat... basically.
"What do yeah have?" and use it... He says some were better connected
than others were but even his buds sometime could not get what they
wanted.
4) TEST IS THE BEST
Now I agree that test
is awesome... He has a different opinion. "I preferred EQ and other
things... I would use test because it was so cheap, but it was not
something a liked. I would do 600 milligrams a week of test. Never
more, it made me feel bad, but I liked EQ and sometimes would just run
that. Loved that stuff like Deca and Winny too. But would use what was
available to me. Vic Richards loved EQ, but the big thing was
parabolan Everyone wanted that. Not everyone could get it on a regular
basis. Oh well "Now he has a script from a very generous doctor. He
uses 500-600 of test cyp and deca. He can get other things but for now
runs the basics.
5) NEVER TAPER
He is very old school in
that regard... He tapers everything down in the last 3 weeks of his
cycle and believe it or not. Only took HCG in the last weeks and no
clomid or nolva Now of course He is on 200 mgs of test cyp even when
off.. But, in his day... He did not use a extensive pct and said he
felt fine... He states that many of his pro friends never did that
either. Just tapered and used HCG Oh well lol
6) PROS TRAIN HARD.
Some do... My buddy to
this day trains like a manic, but he says, "Haney trained hard in the
last 8 weeks of a show. But in the off season he trained heavy. But not
to failure and he ate many of them were that way during the
off-season Train heavy Eat and get big... No drop sets. No forced
reps. Just food and heavy weight. Dont strain too much. HECK IT WAS
TOUGH GETTING CHRISTIAN TO THE GYM LOL NEVER DISCOUNT GENETICS PROS
HAVE A GIFT." He also states that Mike Christian would do chest, back
and legs in the off-season No deltoids or arms at least not too
regular My buddy has some of the best arms I have seen does not train
them
7) PROS ABUSE DRUGS
He laughs. "Sometimes
we would literally forget to take our shots. Haney was not hip on the
drug thing. He took the of course, but never in large amounts and
sometimes he would forget. We would remind him.
8) PROS AND MOST BODYBUILDERS ARE STUPID
"That is ridiculous. Many do get by on their great genetics, but many
are very well read on the human body and anabolics. Some need coaches
to help them. They do not care to know this stuff, but many are very
smart. Dean Torebeane (misspelled) was very intelligent. A thinkings
man bodybuilder... He knew his shit and many went to him for help.
There were many like him out there. (By the way. Dean is seen on
infomercials at night. He is looking awesome and could still be
competitive.)
9) MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF PROTEIN IS REQUIRED FOR BUILDING MUSCLE
"That is silly and wasteful. I never eat much protein and many others I
know never did either. We just ate a lot. It might be carbs. It might
have more protein. I never gave it much thought. Except before a show I
would monitor what I ate, which was 12 weeks out of the year. The rest
of the year ? I just ate... I needed my carbs I would guess that I
never went over 125-150 in protein a day and that was a on a good day."
I have to agree to some extent. I never get to 200 grams ever
sometimes much less... oh well... lol never felt the need just my
opinion ...
10) THEY TAKE THEIR SPONSORS PRODUCTS
He
said that he very rarely saw them take a shake and when they did. He
said he saw a lot of Met-RX being taken. Not who was sponsoring them
Go figure So there you have it agree or disagree... he was in the
middle of it for a long time. Interesting nonetheless just thought I
would throw it out there
MYTHS ABOUT THE PROS AND BODYBUILDING... By LATS
---------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------
This is not story time with LATS, but it is interesting nonetheless. My
buddy who lives in California and lived for quite a spell with Haney
called me the other day. We usually talk twice a month, he was a
national caliber competitor in the 80's and early 90's. He is 44 years
old and looks awesome to say the least. I found some of his comments
very interesting over the years and will tell yeah what he has told me.
Most of which is the exact opposite of what yeah read in the magazines.
1) THE PROS EAT 5-6 TIMES A DAY
He always
laughs about this, here is what he says, "Yeah, maybe before a show.
They tighten up their diet. But, off-season, please I have dined with
them any times. Most of these guys grow from just breathing Haney in
the off-season was only concerned about calories. He would eat about
three times a day and a shake but none of this every three hours crap
we just eat a lot Period. Whether it was done in two or three meals
was just fine with us.
2) BODYBUILDERS EAT CLEAN
Now I have
watched my buddy numerous times eat Here is his diet... Get out of bed
at around 8:00AM. Eat a large bowl of cereal, fruit loops, cheerios, it
really does not seem to matter. Wait an hour and hit the gym. Two hours
later Go back to the house and get some work done... No after workout
shake or nothing He says, "That is silly Your body is always
repairing itself. Plus, I am not hungry after my workout. Why eat?" at
1 or so. I eat a sandwich at the beach, maybe a hamburger and fires
with lemonade, always lemonade at 6:00PM go to a restaurant and eat a
lot of pasta and salad. "Carbs are where it is at, high protein is just
silly. I happen to agree that people put way too much emphasis on
protein, but... anyway... Go home and finish up some work, before bed
may be some popcorn or if he remembers. A Met-RX shake... He says what
he does is not that far off what he watched Mike Christian do and
Strydom, etc
3) THE PROS HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE GOODIES
He laughs at that... "I just used what I could find and put it to use
in my cycles... I just make the proper adjustments if it was something
I did not want I'd use it anyway... It all works... Just has to be
used different. He says many pros were in the same boat... basically.
"What do yeah have?" and use it... He says some were better connected
than others were but even his buds sometime could not get what they
wanted.
4) TEST IS THE BEST
Now I agree that test
is awesome... He has a different opinion. "I preferred EQ and other
things... I would use test because it was so cheap, but it was not
something a liked. I would do 600 milligrams a week of test. Never
more, it made me feel bad, but I liked EQ and sometimes would just run
that. Loved that stuff like Deca and Winny too. But would use what was
available to me. Vic Richards loved EQ, but the big thing was
parabolan Everyone wanted that. Not everyone could get it on a regular
basis. Oh well "Now he has a script from a very generous doctor. He
uses 500-600 of test cyp and deca. He can get other things but for now
runs the basics.
5) NEVER TAPER
He is very old school in
that regard... He tapers everything down in the last 3 weeks of his
cycle and believe it or not. Only took HCG in the last weeks and no
clomid or nolva Now of course He is on 200 mgs of test cyp even when
off.. But, in his day... He did not use a extensive pct and said he
felt fine... He states that many of his pro friends never did that
either. Just tapered and used HCG Oh well lol
6) PROS TRAIN HARD.
Some do... My buddy to
this day trains like a manic, but he says, "Haney trained hard in the
last 8 weeks of a show. But in the off season he trained heavy. But not
to failure and he ate many of them were that way during the
off-season Train heavy Eat and get big... No drop sets. No forced
reps. Just food and heavy weight. Dont strain too much. HECK IT WAS
TOUGH GETTING CHRISTIAN TO THE GYM LOL NEVER DISCOUNT GENETICS PROS
HAVE A GIFT." He also states that Mike Christian would do chest, back
and legs in the off-season No deltoids or arms at least not too
regular My buddy has some of the best arms I have seen does not train
them
7) PROS ABUSE DRUGS
He laughs. "Sometimes
we would literally forget to take our shots. Haney was not hip on the
drug thing. He took the of course, but never in large amounts and
sometimes he would forget. We would remind him.
8) PROS AND MOST BODYBUILDERS ARE STUPID
"That is ridiculous. Many do get by on their great genetics, but many
are very well read on the human body and anabolics. Some need coaches
to help them. They do not care to know this stuff, but many are very
smart. Dean Torebeane (misspelled) was very intelligent. A thinkings
man bodybuilder... He knew his shit and many went to him for help.
There were many like him out there. (By the way. Dean is seen on
infomercials at night. He is looking awesome and could still be
competitive.)
9) MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF PROTEIN IS REQUIRED FOR BUILDING MUSCLE
"That is silly and wasteful. I never eat much protein and many others I
know never did either. We just ate a lot. It might be carbs. It might
have more protein. I never gave it much thought. Except before a show I
would monitor what I ate, which was 12 weeks out of the year. The rest
of the year ? I just ate... I needed my carbs I would guess that I
never went over 125-150 in protein a day and that was a on a good day."
I have to agree to some extent. I never get to 200 grams ever
sometimes much less... oh well... lol never felt the need just my
opinion ...
10) THEY TAKE THEIR SPONSORS PRODUCTS
He
said that he very rarely saw them take a shake and when they did. He
said he saw a lot of Met-RX being taken. Not who was sponsoring them
Go figure So there you have it agree or disagree... he was in the
middle of it for a long time. Interesting nonetheless just thought I
would throw it out there